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Dec 11, 2011 11:12:08 GMT -5
Post by jhelinski on Dec 11, 2011 11:12:08 GMT -5
Everyone is always wanting to pay bail to get out of jail, well why don't you set up like a PayPal account and have people pay ACTUAL money to get out of jail. Then it'll at least help the server. That'd be ONE way to fund the server that so far two people have donated to (according to the site) [P.S. I'm planning on donating as well]
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Dec 11, 2011 13:06:33 GMT -5
Post by DaleK on Dec 11, 2011 13:06:33 GMT -5
I am one of the donators
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Post by blue on Dec 13, 2011 6:18:34 GMT -5
Me too!!
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Dec 15, 2011 5:29:59 GMT -5
Post by John2y on Dec 15, 2011 5:29:59 GMT -5
A Bail of real money is a big problem, They want the money back when jailed or banned, and if they have to pay bail to get out of jail, that have to be with in-game money, not real one. My opinion
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Dec 16, 2011 9:19:20 GMT -5
Post by jhelinski on Dec 16, 2011 9:19:20 GMT -5
They would have to know like "I'm not getting this money back". It's not like we're afraid they'll bay bail then be a flight-risk; the very worst is they leave the server.
And judging how many children play this game, their parents would have to understand that the game, and reality are crossing, and if they're willing to pay for this, it's the same thing as when they're buying these kids WoW, Habbo, FreeRealms, (etc.) cards, except it's not a MANDATORY charge to use the server.
A bonus would be if the kid keeps getting jailed, their parents are bound to do at least one of the following; A.) Stop paying their bail, and they will learn to stop breaking the rules B.) Ban the them from playing on the server; stopping the destruction they were causing C.) Scold the child for constantly being bad; possibly causing them from being destructive.
Without this, none of the above happen, and the server is still being run out-of-pocket by Vycor, there's still the same amount of rule-breaking, and there's no progress in any direction.
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Dec 16, 2011 14:35:42 GMT -5
Post by John2y on Dec 16, 2011 14:35:42 GMT -5
Ok... but that doens't happen to most people. 1st: They will annoy Vycor because of that and then it's a problem. 2nd: you don't care because you aren't the one being annoyed by people constantly. 3rd: You want to get free from jail by paying... that smells me like "I could pay a payed-server and could be better than this one" 4th: jk but seriously: A rich boy want to grief... griefed in the server and then is jailed. He pays, grief again, and then pays, get free again and then griefs even more... pays and get free... that's not fair for me. 5th:Don't give them a donator status!! the payed to get free, not to earn it. 6th: think about that better... xD
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Post by bostonboy1 on Dec 16, 2011 17:02:45 GMT -5
Why don't we have like Parol!! They have to like Dig mines and stuff! We're they like find 5 diamonds and they get out!
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Dec 16, 2011 17:05:50 GMT -5
Post by wragcastle on Dec 16, 2011 17:05:50 GMT -5
I agree with Boston, forced labour would be awesome.
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Dec 16, 2011 20:36:29 GMT -5
Post by jhelinski on Dec 16, 2011 20:36:29 GMT -5
Ok... but that doens't happen to most people. 1st: They will annoy Vycor because of that and then it's a problem. 2nd: you don't care because you aren't the one being annoyed by people constantly. 3rd: You want to get free from jail by paying... that smells me like "I could pay a payed-server and could be better than this one" 4th: jk but seriously: A rich boy want to grief... griefed in the server and then is jailed. He pays, grief again, and then pays, get free again and then griefs even more... pays and get free... that's not fair for me. 5th:Don't give them a donator status!! the payed to get free, not to earn it. 6th: think about that better... xD 1.) how so 2.) Don't ASSUME anything about me 3.) Again with the assuming; I haven't been jailed, and don't plan on it as I don't greif or do anything against the rules, so dom't be so malicious. 4.) That's where the server sets limits; I didn't say it's ALWAYS a way out, but for an offence or two, bail them, and if someone KEEPS having offences, BAN them to not put up with the BS. I didn't say to give the a donator status; that would be rediculous; if anything give them a "Snake" status, so people know they're bad.
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Dec 16, 2011 20:58:56 GMT -5
Post by John2y on Dec 16, 2011 20:58:56 GMT -5
Ok... but that doens't happen to most people. 1st: They will annoy Vycor because of that and then it's a problem. 2nd: you don't care because you aren't the one being annoyed by people constantly. 3rd: You want to get free from jail by paying... that smells me like "I could pay a payed-server and could be better than this one" 4th: jk but seriously: A rich boy want to grief... griefed in the server and then is jailed. He pays, grief again, and then pays, get free again and then griefs even more... pays and get free... that's not fair for me. 5th:Don't give them a donator status!! the payed to get free, not to earn it. 6th: think about that better... xD 1.) how so 2.) Don't ASSUME anything about me 3.) Again with the assuming; I haven't been jailed, and don't plan on it as I don't greif or do anything against the rules, so dom't be so malicious. 4.) That's where the server sets limits; I didn't say it's ALWAYS a way out, but for an offence or two, bail them, and if someone KEEPS having offences, BAN them to not put up with the BS. I didn't say to give the a donator status; that would be rediculous; if anything give them a "Snake" status, so people know they're bad. 1.)you like to get annoyed everytime? that's why... 2.) I have free right to tell anything, you have lucky I'm not worst 3.)I'm making my opinion as a player, and I'm not telling that you are jailed or banned, only for an example. 3.1) You're the malicious one for adding CAPITAL letters to GET atention to SOME points. xD 4.)Fine, Fine... only telling that some people can get out of jail more easily than others, for me isn't fair. 5.)I was only warning that, that option isn't really very acceptable... I think 6.) It's ridiculous, not rediculous 7.)I have the same opinion as Wrag and Boston, that would be a very good idea 8.) "Trial Snake" status for the new ones paying and in the time of... ex: 3 days, they can get "Snake" Status or something like that... 9.) We can have this conversation for a while xD
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Dec 16, 2011 23:45:55 GMT -5
Post by jhelinski on Dec 16, 2011 23:45:55 GMT -5
1.)you like to get annoyed everytime? that's why... 2.) I have free right to tell anything, you have lucky I'm not worst 3.)I'm making my opinion as a player, and I'm not telling that you are jailed or banned, only for an example. 3.1) You're the malicious one for adding CAPITAL letters to GET atention to SOME points. xD 4.)Fine, Fine... only telling that some people can get out of jail more easily than others, for me isn't fair. 5.)I was only warning that, that option isn't really very acceptable... I think 6.) It's ridiculous, not rediculous 7.)I have the same opinion as Wrag and Boston, that would be a very good idea 8.) "Trial Snake" status for the new ones paying and in the time of... ex: 3 days, they can get "Snake" Status or something like that... 9.) We can have this conversation for a while xD 1.I bet; sure thing buddy 2.im not LUCKY about anything, you're just a fail for assuming. 3. then make that point as an example, you straight up said that I was in jail all the time, which is false 3.1 thats emphasis; the capitalization. the definition for malicious is as follows; intending or intended to do harm. This has nothing to do with causing harm, or even attempting to 4. well if you don't limit the bail allowances, then you could infact end up with repeat offenders; however i did not say to only allow certain people the bail. so joe schmo and jane doe both have the same number of bail allowances as the next guy. nobody is above it, so "fail" has nothing to do here. 6. woe is me that i misspelt something; you're not the queen of grammer, spelling, or punctuation either; so don't call the kettle black. 7. i wasn't questioning your opinion on their ideas 5 & 8 I have nothing to say 9 we could if you didn't bring up random things trying to make your self sound cool and/or smart because you don't like me 'cause i called you out in-game. if this thread was strictly opinion on the bail matter, it could be over in favor (or not) of bail.
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Dec 17, 2011 13:56:46 GMT -5
Post by John2y on Dec 17, 2011 13:56:46 GMT -5
1.)you like to get annoyed everytime? that's why... 2.) I have free right to tell anything, you have lucky I'm not worst 3.)I'm making my opinion as a player, and I'm not telling that you are jailed or banned, only for an example. 3.1) You're the malicious one for adding CAPITAL letters to GET atention to SOME points. xD 4.)Fine, Fine... only telling that some people can get out of jail more easily than others, for me isn't fair. 5.)I was only warning that, that option isn't really very acceptable... I think 6.) It's ridiculous, not rediculous 7.)I have the same opinion as Wrag and Boston, that would be a very good idea 8.) "Trial Snake" status for the new ones paying and in the time of... ex: 3 days, they can get "Snake" Status or something like that... 9.) We can have this conversation for a while xD 1.I bet; sure thing buddy 2.im not LUCKY about anything, you're just a fail for assuming. 3. then make that point as an example, you straight up said that I was in jail all the time, which is false 3.1 thats emphasis; the capitalization. the definition for malicious is as follows; intending or intended to do harm. This has nothing to do with causing harm, or even attempting to 4. well if you don't limit the bail allowances, then you could infact end up with repeat offenders; however i did not say to only allow certain people the bail. so joe schmo and jane doe both have the same number of bail allowances as the next guy. nobody is above it, so "fail" has nothing to do here. 6. woe is me that i misspelt something; you're not the queen of grammer, spelling, or punctuation either; so don't call the kettle black. 7. i wasn't questioning your opinion on their ideas 5 & 8 I have nothing to say 9 we could if you didn't bring up random things trying to make your self sound cool and/or smart because you don't like me 'cause i called you out in-game. if this thread was strictly opinion on the bail matter, it could be over in favor (or not) of bail. One more time... 1.) that's one sign that you are a arrogant, egocentric, too confidant guy. You're what? 6 years old? I'm like that too? I'm only arrogant with arrogant people and when they want me to be one. I'm egocentric? you think I was here, shooting my Latin to you because of that? if you think yes, why do you have a brain? 3. & 4.) Do you understand what is an example and how to tell one? you have many roads to choose... like the indirect and the direct examples... I admit that I didn't say that in the first place but I admited it in the second and you continue... you know what's the better time to say "Stop" and leave it? 2.) you want me to not assuming anything about you? don't assume anything about me as well. 6.) I'm Portuguese and was trying to help in the grammar (for example again you spelled "grammer" and it's "grammar" for me), I'm not the king of grammar but you aren't one for sure, I know more of Portuguese than you and you know more of English than me, that doesn't mean you/I am/are the King, so don't pretend to be one here. When you learn how to speak Portuguese, you can talk with me about this. 7.) I didn't questioned your opinion too about what I said, It was directed to wrag and boston, you aren't the only one that can see this topic. 9.) For what you said, you are telling that you are the smarter too...that's not true because you probably know somethings that I don't know but I can probably know even more things than you, don't pretend to be what you possibly aren't, It's not that I like or not like you, but you think you're more than other people and I don't like that, How can I know that? see the 1,3,4,9,7 and 6 and then talk with me. At least admit it and I'll be more friendly. I'm more than other people? of course not, we are all the same in somethings, but yes, I at least can have more moral than other people have because we are all different. I only continue this conversation because I want to see at what point you think you're more than others. you're the one that started with this with the topic A.) B.) C.) etc... so don't try to sound cool and/or smarter by correcting me with this topics, you're the one making the error of adding an "non-opinion" about the bail thing in the first place, so you infected this topic. I can forget this whole thing by deleting the topics that aren't opinions, but that would include some things that you told. Continue if you want me to continue as well, you're begging me to do it.
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Dec 17, 2011 15:28:02 GMT -5
Post by DaleK on Dec 17, 2011 15:28:02 GMT -5
All I can say is tl;dr sorry :/
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Dec 18, 2011 7:30:18 GMT -5
Post by jhelinski on Dec 18, 2011 7:30:18 GMT -5
One more time...
1.) that's one sign that you are a arrogant, egocentric, too confidant guy. You're what? 6 years old? I'm like that too? I'm only arrogant with arrogant people and when they want me to be one. I'm egocentric? you think I was here, shooting my Latin to you because of that? if you think yes, why do you have a brain? 3. & 4.) Do you understand what is an example and how to tell one? you have many roads to choose... like the indirect and the direct examples... I admit that I didn't say that in the first place but I admited it in the second and you continue... you know what's the better time to say "Stop" and leave it?
2.) you want me to not assuming anything about you? don't assume anything about me as well.
6.) I'm Portuguese and was trying to help in the grammar (for example again you spelled "grammer" and it's "grammar" for me), I'm not the king of grammar but you aren't one for sure, I know more of Portuguese than you and you know more of English than me, that doesn't mean you/I am/are the King, so don't pretend to be one here. When you learn how to speak Portuguese, you can talk with me about this.
7.) I didn't questioned your opinion too about what I said, It was directed to wrag and boston, you aren't the only one that can see this topic.
9.) For what you said, you are telling that you are the smarter too...that's not true because you probably know somethings that I don't know but I can probably know even more things than you, don't pretend to be what you possibly aren't, It's not that I like or not like you, but you think you're more than other people and I don't like that, How can I know that? see the 1,3,4,9,7 and 6 and then talk with me. At least admit it and I'll be more friendly.
I'm more than other people? of course not, we are all the same in somethings, but yes, I at least can have more moral than other people have because we are all different. I only continue this conversation because I want to see at what point you think you're more than others. you're the one that started with this with the topic A.) B.) C.) etc... so don't try to sound cool and/or smarter by correcting me with this topics, you're the one making the error of adding an "non-opinion" about the bail thing in the first place, so you infected this topic. I can forget this whole thing by deleting the topics that aren't opinions, but that would include some things that you told. Continue if you want me to continue as well, you're begging me to do it. [/quote]
Since you don't know how to count or stay on track of failing a personal attack; I'm not using numbers anymore. Now, I won't sit here and prove how wrong you are on that one; so just tell yourself that buddy. However for the record, I'm neither arrogant, nor 6 years old. I didn't say that you were egocentric, so there you go again with the implying again. "3 & 4" I don't know what you're talking about as it does not correspond to the previous post's numbers, so I'll leave that one as is. In response to "It's a good time to stop" You're right, it is; but you keep dragging this on; either prove a valid point, or sit down. You were the one to BEGIN a personal attack, so I will END it; I don't mean that in some aggressive manner, but as a general rule in conversation, both parties have the same amount of dialect as the other; so if you take 5 swings at me, I take 5 back where I can be an aggressor and respond to either aggregate the argument, or simply shoot down each claim (you) construct against me individually as I'm doing here. I'm not assuming anything about you, so feel free to keep telling yourself that I am, because you are dead wrong. Speaking Portuguese, or speaking English, or even Morse code is not the matter at fact. It does not matter WHAT somebody speaks, or honestly if they speak it clearly; or even if they do, we ALL make mistakes, so don't correct somebody unless you're a professional linguist or the like. I can sit here and complain about your ability to type or, spell, or or punctuate, but I DON'T because I'd simply be "the pot calling the kettle black", but you made a point of it, and then tried to pin it off as you "was trying to help in the grammar" but then implied that because YOU spell grammar with an AR you had to correct me to the way you spell it. Now, grammar IS spelled with an AR, but it doesn't matter if it's spelled "grammar" or "xypdq" If that's how somebody spells it in a foreign language, or in a language you don't speak clearly, don't correct them as you're likely wrong. I wouldn't be caught dead correcting one of the Latinos in my old neighborhood for speaking poor Spanish because it's not my native language, and I'm probably wrong. I might be right, but in the end, what does it matter. I'm off topic anyway. Essentially, you questioned anyone who can view this forum, so I fit in to that category, especially as I'm sitting here for like fifteen minutes bitching at your bitchings, rather than working. Now, the "you are telling that you are the smarter too" I didn't TELL, or SAY any of that. Just I don't go around bragging about my IQ, and whether I'm more intelligent than the next guy is irrelevant because there's always somebody that has more than you, whether it be money, strength, intelligence, or anything. I can't deny, I do feel superior to most people, but I do not shove their lack of intelligence down their throat as you're trying to force upon me, however failing. Whether I'm smarter than you or you than I, is irrelevant, however neither you or I can be the judge of that, so it shouldn't have even come up in the beginning, but no, you have to attempt to compose a personal attack against me, rather than just leaving it alone and staying strictly on the topic of nymiecraft.com bail, instead you went and inspired a public argument on the forums for everyone to see. Not that I'm any less guilty than you, because I could have left it alone, but I'm high strung, so I'm just as guilty as you here. So now this topic page is littered with the disaccord between you and I, and my idea of bail with actual currency to help fund the server is most likely killed from this last couple million characters that compost these last few posts. Thanks for that. "I'm more than most people" ... "I have more moral" I don't know what you're talking about there, so be it, left alone; again. The A.), B.), C.)... was simply a form of management, so I wouldn't lose my train of thought; it was not meant in any form meant to put anyone down, or come off as aggressive. I don't see how it comes off that way, but apparently you do so be it. I'm not sounding cool or smarter be having a "not-an-option" I SAID you were right, that theoretically people could be repeat offenders, and in response they should have their privilege to bail revoked. I don't know HOW you're under the impression that I'm trying to, but I'm not; the end. Infecting this? Whatever you say buddy. You ARE just as guilty as me. Either one of us could be seen as the one who started the whole thing, and even more so, we BOTH can be looked at as the ones who didn't just let it go, so if I "infected" this topic, you sis as well; ability to delete post or not, we are BOTH guilty in that matter.
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Dec 18, 2011 11:27:18 GMT -5
Post by DaleK on Dec 18, 2011 11:27:18 GMT -5
Just saying, John is 17, and English is not his native language.
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