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Dec 7, 2013 0:55:59 GMT -5
Post by s0yb0y98 on Dec 7, 2013 0:55:59 GMT -5
So I join today, and dont have anything to do, so im seeing what others are doing, and angel just out of the blue fucking kills me when i tped to him... (no he wasnt doing anything, just building with drex)
And how did drex get mod when hes been on the server for a week? Angel left for close to a year and now he has say in who gets mod immediately?
I dont have a screenshot because for some dumb reason my F2 wouldnt take one....
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Dec 7, 2013 20:36:42 GMT -5
Post by chocolaticake on Dec 7, 2013 20:36:42 GMT -5
Moderator privileges, no one else besides Vycor has a say in this.
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Dec 7, 2013 23:04:48 GMT -5
Post by Vycor on Dec 7, 2013 23:04:48 GMT -5
I don't need to explain myself with who I choose for mods... but Angel is a mod because he knows how to be one, and he leaves from time to time due to his work and other interests, but he's dedicated to helping build things and helping me out.
And drexplosion became a mod because he originally pointed out some flaws with the server (rather then ABUSING them) and helped us fix a lot of other issues. He also has experience running severs.
I didn't realize until later he was a friend of angels which is why he came around recently.
So that is why he's a mod, because of his experience and because. NOBODY actually EVER came to me saying "dr should be a mod" it was my decision and i actually asked "what you guys think of this drexplosion guy" and i was told from almost everybody that he seems helpfull, then i was told "he's a friend of angels" which basically helped my decision.
As for you being killed by angel, i'll address this, but again, do not abuse the TP feature... if you tp to a mod you need to be careful, we work on a lot of things that the general public is not to see or access
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Dec 10, 2013 13:11:12 GMT -5
Post by Creeperbia on Dec 10, 2013 13:11:12 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not doubting your decision Vycor, but you said he has "experience running servers". He had been on for a week, some active players have been on for almost 2 years. I do not want to become moderator on this server anymore. I don't play on it enough to know what's going on. While this person may have experience running servers, it doesn't mean that he has experience on this server, and the way it works. I've been on this server for 3 years now, starting on November 2011, and most of the moderators on this server have been very good. I don't want another "Panda Incident" to happen (For those of you who don't remember, or weren't around when this happened, the SuperMod - PandasPlayTetris got mad because his brother got banned, and he griefed spawn and everything got fucked up. While Panda's was a great person, he went to the Dark Side, and made a bad choice) I feel that someone that the server knows (is popular) and trusts (has a good reputation) should become moderator. I have seen many servers get completely shut down by the doing of a staff member (i.e. using commands to kill players, and ruin their time). I'm not saying that drexplosionpd should be demodded, but I would be happy to see a "Trial-Mod" rank, for people who seem to be an eligible staff member. If I were to have a moderator suggestion, I would pick either ChocolatiCake, or lhintszche. Thank you for reading -Creeperbia
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Dec 10, 2013 17:53:34 GMT -5
Post by Vycor on Dec 10, 2013 17:53:34 GMT -5
I've been on the server 3 years also Basically those who are complaining are those who think they should be mods. I don't make mods based on the "popularity" of a player... I base it off of other things. Mainly what other mods think, how helpfull they are. Basically before I even know he was a friend of Angels i asked the other mods "what you think of this guy" because he was new and was helping us fix some bugs on the server... then i learned he was angels friend, has played with angel for a while and has fixed other servers it made the decision easy and quick. Again this isn't something we put up for vote and whoever gets the most votes, its based on a # of reasons. And, as said as you may think this is, it's based on a group of people and who they recommend (mainly people they get along with, so in the end the mods are actually all people who know each other)... That's how emo became a mod. She was quiet, was building a LOT and was friendly with other mods. It's how I almost became a mod on Florida, i became friends with the mods and only hung around them. That's not to say everybody should just start harassing mods to "can i help" and what not... we get the idea, but theres more to it. I don't play much, i need players who know how to fix stuff and can be "moderators" for that very word, they moderate. Someone who will not play favorites/etc... Theres no set # of mods... i can add mods on anytime i want. BTW, being a mod 2, does not really give you any extra privilages then the other mods. They are basically Donator-60 status + a few extra commands. Only mod 1's can spawn items and use world edit. I may be expanding the mod pool but it's not going to be based on recomendations. I'll probably never do a trial-mod rank as it's more of a pain to setup then to just give someone Mod 2. Those two people have been discussed about being mods in the past, i'm not quite sure why i chose not to, i can't remember, i had my reasons, but who knows, one day they may be mods again, etc... I don't know lhint much but I see chocolaticake more. There are others who have been concidered as well. Again, i neglected MC for a while, started playing again with 1.7.2 and realized "shit we need some more mods" so i appointed someone who was recommended. I prefer "recomendations" because they are just that, recomendations.
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Dec 10, 2013 19:06:39 GMT -5
Post by Creeperbia on Dec 10, 2013 19:06:39 GMT -5
I see your point clearly, and I agree with it. Like I said, I don't want to be a moderator anymore. But IF I got more interested in the server again (which I might, new start sounds fun) I would be more interested in becoming part of the Staff. I've had lots of experience on this server, and get along with anybody, unless they're a total jerk. I know what almost all of the plugins do, and how to use them. From what I've seen, I'm friends with most of the mods, and have been friends with all of the original mods (Skyrocket, John2y, Pandas, Spartan) from "Back In The Day". I talk to WragCastle almost every day, and if not, he's busy with something else. Most of the active players that have been on for a considerable amount of time are familiar with who I am. I still enjoy playing and building on this server, and very much enjoy chatting with the players. I am definitely not saying that I should become mod, and I'm not trying to "prove" myself to you. I like to set a good example to players, because I want to ensure that players have a good time, and make other player's time enjoyable, and grief free. I've had many experiences with griefs, and know how to fix them. I am familiar with Prism, and know how to use it (Experience from different servers) And myself have been griefed many times. Seeing some of my own creations being destroyed is always a downer, especially when it cannot be fixed.
I know that being a Mod 2 doesn't affect much, and that it is similar to a Trial-Mod like rank. I realize that they can't do much harm (i.e. world editing lava everywhere) but like I said in my other post, I've seen servers gone down permanently because of somebody WorldEditing the whole spawn lava, destroying HOURS of work. The only reason this happened, is because somebody of power trusted this person, and made them have power also. This obviously can lead to massive destruction, and I've seen it happen. One of the servers I play on almost every day, and my account on there is worth over $200, got hacked by some griefing group called Team Lixo. Nearly everything (Regions, Portals, etc...) Was destroyed. Luckily, the owner had a backup save, and fixed it all ASAP. Luckily, bukkit fixed this glitch, and all was good in Minecraftia. I have seen this many other times, and it is NOT pretty.
I noticed that now Mod 1's have World Edit. Like I explained above, somebody earned the trust of somebody of higher power, and they got similar powers, and this lead to the disaster. I may sound like I'm being circumspect, but I'm just watching out for things that I've seen before, and that I know can and will happen. I have 1 word that says how I know this can happen. Pandas.
-Creeperbia
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Dec 10, 2013 20:43:14 GMT -5
Post by s0yb0y98 on Dec 10, 2013 20:43:14 GMT -5
I dont care anymore xD You guys are writing books now
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Dec 11, 2013 12:43:28 GMT -5
Post by Vycor on Dec 11, 2013 12:43:28 GMT -5
If people only play on the server to become a "mod" then they should just stop playing now because that's not going to happen. And those people who say "well if i'll never be a mod I don't know why I'll play here" will never be mods either... this is a game server, enjoy the game. Let us worry about keeping order, you folks just worry about having fun.
If we decide to make more mods, we'll pick them, not the public.
I'm not sure what you meant by "someone earned the trust" and all that jazz... panda did some stupid things, it was not a HUGE deal, we fixed it rather quickly, and he was booted as a mod... that happens, who's to say it'll never happen again.
That's why we log world edit commands.
Hell if a mod griefs we simply roll it back and he's banned/booted. It's that simple.
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Dec 12, 2013 15:21:52 GMT -5
Post by SCVroker7253 on Dec 12, 2013 15:21:52 GMT -5
Being a Mod is horrible. Dealing with stupid little immature children griefing, complaining, and being all around hooligans all the time is not fun. I am so happy I'm not Mod anymore.
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Dec 12, 2013 16:54:45 GMT -5
Post by s0yb0y98 on Dec 12, 2013 16:54:45 GMT -5
Being a Mod is horrible. Dealing with stupid little immature children griefing, complaining, and being all around hooligans all the time is not fun. I am so happy I'm not Mod anymore. You could have asked to be demodded before you were... BTW, that would have made EVERYone happier I think. And NO, you did not tell him to demod you, you were demodded.
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Dec 12, 2013 17:29:43 GMT -5
Post by laxusrules1 on Dec 12, 2013 17:29:43 GMT -5
Being a Mod is horrible. Dealing with stupid little immature children griefing, complaining, and being all around hooligans all the time is not fun. I am so happy I'm not Mod anymore. really you just insulted the whole server -_-
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Dec 12, 2013 17:57:58 GMT -5
Post by SCVroker7253 on Dec 12, 2013 17:57:58 GMT -5
Being a Mod is horrible. Dealing with stupid little immature children griefing, complaining, and being all around hooligans all the time is not fun. I am so happy I'm not Mod anymore. You could have asked to be demodded before you were... BTW, that would have made EVERYone happier I think. And NO, you did not tell him to demod you, you were demodded. I totally should have stepped down before I was demodded, it would have made a lot of things easier.
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Dec 12, 2013 17:59:47 GMT -5
Post by SCVroker7253 on Dec 12, 2013 17:59:47 GMT -5
Being a Mod is horrible. Dealing with stupid little immature children griefing, complaining, and being all around hooligans all the time is not fun. I am so happy I'm not Mod anymore. really you just insulted the whole server -_- If someone chooses to be insulted by my personal opinions then so be it. Not all children are immature and not every child will grief, complain, etc. I'm just saying I didn't like the ones that did and I still don't. Thankfully I am now just a player like everyone else.
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Dec 13, 2013 1:17:33 GMT -5
Post by chocolaticake on Dec 13, 2013 1:17:33 GMT -5
really you just insulted the whole server -_- If someone chooses to be insulted by my personal opinions then so be it. Not all children are immature and not every child will grief, complain, etc. I'm just saying I didn't like the ones that did and I still don't. Thankfully I am now just a player like everyone else. Dealing with immature people is what you ask for when you appoint as a mod lol. It's a responsibility to uphold no matter how pestilent they are.
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Dec 16, 2013 16:08:47 GMT -5
Post by SCVroker7253 on Dec 16, 2013 16:08:47 GMT -5
If someone chooses to be insulted by my personal opinions then so be it. Not all children are immature and not every child will grief, complain, etc. I'm just saying I didn't like the ones that did and I still don't. Thankfully I am now just a player like everyone else. Dealing with immature people is what you ask for when you appoint as a mod lol. It's a responsibility to uphold no matter how pestilent they are. Exactly, and that is why I was NOT right for the job. You on the other hand would make a great Mod, just sayin...
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